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Pro life catholic: I won’t donate to planned parenthood, even if the majority of what they do is good, because I disagree with abortion. Same catholic: I’ll still donate to the Catholic Church, even if they covered up child rape, because the majority of what they do is good.

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Posted byAll Hail Notorious RBG4 months ago
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Pro life catholic: I won’t donate to planned parenthood, even if the majority of what they do is good, because I disagree with abortion. Same catholic: I’ll still donate to the Catholic Church, even if they covered up child rape, because the majority of what they do is good.

Someone ( hat tip to /u/twentyfive_shmeckles ) made this comparison yesterday in another thread and I thought it was spot on.

Pro lifers are willing to demonize planned parenthood and overlook the tons of amazing work they do because they also provide abortion services.

However, the same pro lifer will go to the Catholic Church, continue to support the organization with their attendance and donations DESPITE the child sex abuse scandal because “the majority of the work they do is good.”

If only they could see that they aren’t applying their own logic consistently..

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You forgot they covered up forced abortions on nuns raped by priests

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All Hail Notorious RBGOriginal Poster3.0k points · 4 months ago
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source for those who haven't heard about that particular scandal.

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When you're a human937 points · 4 months ago

Honestly like just let the priests get married and have a normal life, I think it would relieve so many issues for them and stop making it a haven for creeps.

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154 points · 4 months ago

You forgot the part where they turned indigenous populations away from their cultures.

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57 points · 4 months ago

Not really surprised. This is why I think all religion is bunk. Full of hypocrites.

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Well that's still not pro choice.

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2.1k points · 4 months ago
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Ahhh this is the wonderful logic that caused my total loss of faith and hope for the Catholic community when I was 13.

I was attending a Catholic school, and we were constantly fundraising for Amnesty International. I was absolutely obsessed with the organization and my dream at the time was to become a human rights lawyer and work with Amnesty; learning about their new causes was like my life. (I was a dorky teenager.)

One day, the school chaplain makes an announcement that we will no longer be fundraising or supporting Amnesty International because they support women's access to abortion. I don't think I knew what an abortion was but I remember feeling devastated.

When I told my Dad he said "Good." When I told my Mum she explained what an abortion was and how if a woman needed Amnesty International to back her abortion then she definitely needed the abortion.

But hey! Let's just ignore literally all the work an organization does to better the world and focus on abortion. It's clearly the only thing that matters!

Total loss of faith. I have never been able to come back to the Catholic community after that.

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659 points · 4 months ago

My loss of faith was drastically accelerated when the pedophile priest accusations were in the headlines during the 90s and early 2000s, and my mother and every other Catholic adult I knew was upset that so many people were talking about it. I understand now that it was basically #notallcatholics but I remember being livid that none of these people I respected would come out visibly and vocally about child rape by trusted clergy.

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I originally lost my (Catholic) faith after my dad insisted all non-believers go to hell, even secluded island tribes because it's their duty to 'find faith'. BUT I was completely disenchanted when he tried to stop me from getting on birth control because it's against the religion. I actually think most modern Catholics are okay with birth control now, but my family is traditional. Thankfully my mom insisted on it because I had irregular periods and had bled through some pants, I wasn't even sexually active at the time (16).

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Sinilar thing happened to me at the same age, but back in the early 1990s when the priest read a letter from Pope JPII that “proclaimed the intrinsic evil of homosexuality” as the homily.

My much-loved uncle (and godfather, ironically enough) is gay. That letter put the final nail in the coffin of my Catholicism. 25 years later, and I’m still happily bumbling along through life as a godless heathen.

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I’m glad your mom was able to sit you dawn and have an adult conversation with you at that time in your life.

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My loss of faith in the Church happened when I was in the process of being confirmed as a young teenager (13-14, I think). I learned that not only could I never get an abortion, I could not use birth control. It made absolutely no sense to me.

The complete illogic of it really threw me for a loop.

I went through with my confirmation but naturally felt quite guilty about it. I still "culturally identify" as Catholic, since it was a big part of my upbringing in the 90s and early 00s, as well as a substantial part of my family identity (the thing that brought the different parts of my family together was Catholicism, since nearly all immigrated from different countries in the19th/early 20th centuries).

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33 points · 4 months ago

Were you able to fulfill your dream of becoming a human rights lawyer? :)

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